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- Ham-Digital Digest Tue, 23 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 282
-
- Today's Topics:
- (none) (2 msgs)
- ?Fastest speed on HF/SSB ?
- ATM over radio...
- Can packet radio do point-to-multipoint HIGH speed IP? (2 msgs)
- Clover
- HF Packet
- Need 9600 baud mod info for IC271/471
- Need Kam+ to HTX-202 Cable
- Need some help with the design of an Operational Amplifi
- Packet Cluster on HF
- Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 for Packet?
- WANT: Packet Software for KAM
- Yaesu 2 Meter All-Mode for Sale
-
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-
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-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 16:32:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: (none)
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- SIGNOFF ham-digital
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 16:32:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: (none)
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 17:53:46 GMT
- From: newsgw.mentorg.com!wv.mentorg.com!hanko@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: ?Fastest speed on HF/SSB ?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <33725t$6s1@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>, jlin@kaiwan.com (GECL) writes:
- |>
- |>
- |> What is the fastest spped of digital transmission on HF/SSB radio ?
- |> using which protocol and modem ?
-
- 750 bps, CLOVER, HAL PCI-4000.
-
- --
-
- Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics Library Operations
- Internet : hank_oredson@mentorg.com "Parts 'R Us!"
- Amateur Radio: W0RLI@W0RLI.OR.USA.NOAM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 11:54:07 CDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!erlang.tisl.ukans.edu!sbush@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ATM over radio...
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a few questions concerning digital radio protocols.
-
- First, does anyone have any good references for ATM over radio ?
-
- Second, does anyone have any good references for general packet radio
- protocols ?
-
- Third, can someone tell me the address of the mobile-ip mailing list ?
-
- Thanks,
- Steve Bush
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 21:46:32 -0400
- From: bronze.coil.com!bronze.coil.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Can packet radio do point-to-multipoint HIGH speed IP?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I need to send IP packets over the air at high speeds (Ethernet speeds
- -10Mbps or close). The ketch is I need to use one transmitter to
- broadcast/reciev from multiple points. As you can see I am new to packet
- radio so as much detail as possible would be appreciated!
-
- - Thanks!
- please call me at 614-766-7780 so I can call you back (cuz of the lond
- distance so that we can discuss this application of packet radio. I say
- once again - I am new to packet radio and I need all the help I can get :)!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Aug 1994 02:21:45 GMT
- From: news.uiowa.edu!panda@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Can packet radio do point-to-multipoint HIGH speed IP?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In note <33bkdo$25i@bronze.coil.com>, rumbo@bronze.coil.com (Rumbo!) writes:
- >I need to send IP packets over the air at high speeds (Ethernet speeds
- >-10Mbps or close). The ketch is I need to use one transmitter to
- >broadcast/reciev from multiple points. As you can see I am new to packet
- >radio so as much detail as possible would be appreciated!
- Fastest standard I know of is 56Kbps... I don't know of any 10Mbps
- broadcast equpiment...)
- >- Thanks!
- >please call me at 614-766-7780 so I can call you back (cuz of the lond
- >distance so that we can discuss this application of packet radio. I say
- >once again - I am new to packet radio and I need all the help I can get :)!
- >
- >
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 17:54:49 GMT
- From: newsgw.mentorg.com!wv.mentorg.com!hanko@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Clover
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <3387vm$6sk@golden.ncw.net>, pbriggs@golden.ncw.net (Patrick Briggs) writes:
- |> Any Clover users around?
- |>
- |> --------------------
- |> Patrick R. Briggs
- |> pbriggs@golden.ncw.net
-
- Yes.
-
- --
-
- Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics Library Operations
- Internet : hank_oredson@mentorg.com "Parts 'R Us!"
- Amateur Radio: W0RLI@W0RLI.OR.USA.NOAM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:52:46 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!news!zielke@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HF Packet
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I am in the process of examining the possibilities of using HF packet to
- provide communication between my sailboat while at sea and land based e-mail
- connections. I have been a ham since the late 70's and have been inactive
- for some time. Suggestions of what kind of gear (HF rig, TNC, computer)
- would be very helpful. I will most likely be loading the backstay as an
- antenna.
-
- Also, I am trying to decide between Intel based PC's and the Mac portables
- (something like a 540 active monochrome in the mac line or a 486 33mhz
- laptop in the intel world).
-
- David
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 20:56:55 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!eskimo!rdonnell@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need 9600 baud mod info for IC271/471
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Steve Diggs (steve.diggs@totrbbs.atl.ga.us) wrote:
-
- : Here you go, Tom. BTW, I am looking for 9k6 mod. info on GE MstrII
- : crystal controlled rigs, plus the Kenwood TM401
-
- : Regards,
- : Steve Diggs
- : East Atlanta LAN
-
- Hi Steve,
-
- If the Mastr II is one using a PLL exciter (only adjustments are xtal freq,
- deviation, and an inductor near the back of the board) then all you have to
- do is inject TX audio right into the audio input pin on the TCXO. If you are
- building a repeater, you will probably want to modify the PLL so that it
- runs all the time. If I recall you have to jumper power to the board that
- is normally switched by the PTT, then use the PTT signal to turn on and off
- one of the later buffer amps in the exciter. I've done this, but it was
- about two years ago, and (by the way) the repeater has been running
- continiously since then. Only troubles are caused by our low-budget startup
- - we didn't invest in having the TCXO temperature compensated to the
- crystal, and the repeater is on a 5000' mountain. During the cold weather,
- it was necessary to send lots of data to the hill (pings) to get the machine
- warm enough repeat packets decently. We are using the TAPR 9600 modem on
- this system.
-
- If the Mastr II is one of the conventional design exciters, it is probably
- very similar to the MVP and Exec II mobiles. Our group has modified a whole
- bunch of MVP's. The TX mod is to apply modulation through a 2.2k resistor
- directly to the varactor diode on the channel element. This takes up to 6
- volts p-p to get proper deviation, so either a buffer amp is needed, or the
- output buffer on the modem has to be modified. We've done the latter to a
- number of the TAPR modems.
-
- The receive mods can be done two ways. This appears to apply to all the GE
- Mastr II's, MVP's, and Exec II's, as they use the same board set for the
- receiver. On the IF/detector board, you can either 1) tap right off the
- audio out pin of the detector chip, or 2) take the RX audio off of the board
- output and remove all the caps in the 3-transistor amp stage between the
- detector chip and output that affect frequency response. The latter is
- reccomended to give a little more signal level for the modem to work with.
-
-
- Hope that gets you headed in the right direction.
-
- 73, Bob
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Bob Donnell, kd7nm bob@ethanac.kd7nm.ampr.org rdonnell@eskimo.com
- Western Washington Amateur IP Address Coordinator (206) 775-3651
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 16:15:22 -0500
- From: news2.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@yale.arpa
- Subject: Need Kam+ to HTX-202 Cable
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Cables can be purchased from Tucker Electronics (1-800-527-4642) for
- about $15 plus shipping.
-
- Dennis/N1RDN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 21:39:24 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Need some help with the design of an Operational Amplifi
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Chris,
- Are you sure that 741 is O.K.? If it is you should measure 0.00 volts
- accross the input terminals. To clarify what the other respondent said:
- Connect R1 from ground to the INVERTING INPUT.
- Connect R2 from the INVERTING INPUT to the OUTPUT.
- Connect your input signal source to the NON-INVETING INPUT.
- That's it! If the input goes to -11 volts it means the op-amp isn't in a
- closed loop and the negative input exceeds the positive by even a few milli-volt
- Volts!!
-
- Good Luck..
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 13:43:33 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!concert!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Packet Cluster on HF
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Anyone know of any (preferrably East Coast US) Packet Cluster nodes
- on HF? Sitting in the middle of Virginia, I have extremely poor
- Cluster reception on 2 meters. Although I can hear 5-9++ the backbone
- which runs down the middle of the state only 5 miles from me.
- Unfortunately the operator won't let anyone "hang" any nodes on it!
-
- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
- Ned Hamilton NTC Department of Neurosurgery
- nedh@virginia.edu University of Virginia
- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 19:19:59 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!nntpa!devildog!newsadm@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 for Packet?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In <1994Aug20.152218.10432@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >In article <Custux.8Fv@freenet.carleton.ca> aa642@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gordon Phillips) writes:
- >>
- >>1) Is this rather old computer suitable for portable packet?
-
- [stuff deleted here]
-
- >
- >Yes indeed. The only problem is the 40 column lines. Most packet is
- >formatted for a 80 column screen, so lines wrap and make formatted
- >messages look funny.
- >
- An 80 column VT100 emulator does exist. It only shows 40 columns at a
- time, but it might help you out. It was on one the ftp sites on the
- Internet as vt100.bas and vt100.doc
-
- >>4) the model 100 runs at 300 bps through its internal phone modem, what
- >> speed can I expect to operate the tnc via the rs232 port?
- >
- >The TRS100 will support faster speeds on it's serial port. I don't
- >recall exactly how fast it will go, I sold mine a while back, but
- >I'm sure it'll do 9600 and maybe 19.2 kb.
- >
- One minor nit here... The TRS-100 and TRS-102 will only print to the
- screen up to about 400-600 baud. The laptop's serial port will communicate
- up to 9600 ( or 19200 ) as long as you aren't using the LCD screen.
- (For example, doing a file transfer with a PC using some terminal program.
- You download to a file and don't print to the screen hence you can go fast.)
-
- The Tandy 200 laptop (with the 16 line screen) can handle
- up to 1200 baud when writing to the screen. If you try to run the
- serial port above these rates (while updating the screen) you
- will either start losing characters or you will see your actual
- throughput drop to the screen writing speed (depending on flow control).
-
- Doug
- doug@acpy01.utsd.att.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 13:47:27 MST
- From: news.sprintlink.net!primenet!stat!david@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: WANT: Packet Software for KAM
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- cmwdr01@nt.com (Dave Redfearn) writes:
-
- > I am looking for a software package for the Kantronicsa KAM which allows
- > simultaneous connections to the VHF and HF ports ( ie an AMTOR connection on
- > HF and a packet connection on VHF at the same time). Apparently this requires
- > the KAM to run in host mode. I also have the newest ROM installed so the KAM
- > runs GTOR and the program would need to handle that too.
- > Thanks - Dave.
-
- I am running KAGold 9.02; which I have been very happy with, and does
- everything you ask plus more.
-
- david
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 09:52:52 -0500
- From: news2.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@yale.arpa
- Subject: Yaesu 2 Meter All-Mode for Sale
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
-
-
- FOR SALE:
-
- Yaesu FT-290 RII 2 Meter All-Mode Transceiver
- - DTMF Microphone
- - 25 Watt Amplifier
- - Mobile Mounting Bracket (never installed)
-
- This rig is in perfect condition. I purchased it for
- the Spring VHF Sweeps and have used it about 6 times
- since then. The receiver section and audio on this
- rig are excellent, and the SSB is exceptionally sweet.
-
- Unfortunately I must part with it for financial reasons.
-
- The first $450 takes it away.
-
- respond via Email to brunelli_pc@delphi.com
-
- pete brunelli
- n1qdq
-
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:58:45 -0400
- From: noc.near.net!chaos.dac.neu.edu!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- References <3343hs$1o4@on-ramp.ior.com>, <CuuDwC.LM@metronet.com>, <Cuuo4K.2nv@vectorbd.com>dac.neu
- Subject : Re: HELP..TCP/IP
-
-
- To get into TCP/IP packet, you will need to do the following:
-
- 1) Ask hams in your area what TCP/IP stations are operating in your
- area, and on what frequencies those stations live on; also ask who the
- IP address coordinator for your area is, and how to contact them;
-
- 2) Try to connect via a normal AX.25 connection to those stations.
- Whichever one you can connect to the easiest is the station you should
- stick with and remember;
-
- 3) Ask your IP coordinator for an IP address based on that IP station
- your were able to connect to.
-
- 4) Grab a copy of NOS (I like JNOS, available via anonymous FTP in
- ftp.uscd.edu:/hamradio/packet/tcpip), and ask a friend already on TCP/IP
- for a copy of autoexec.nos, the file which tells your NOS program all the
- settings it needs to know.
-
- 5) If the person who gave you the autoexec.nos file didn't customize it
- for you, you will need to edit it to add your IP address and hostname.
-
-
- Now, getting back to the KISS thing. Once in KISS mode, if you have a
- working copy of autoexec.nos, and you start JNOS, you can tell your TNC
- to go back into AX.25 mode with the command 'param ax0 255' or something
- similar, depending on your TNC.
-
- Or, if you prefer, you can perform an AX.25 from within NOS by typing
- 'connect ax0 station_you_want' AX0 is the "interface" name, or, simply,
- tells JNOS what port your TNC is connected to (an alias for the com port).
-
- When all else fails, there is a jumper in most TNCs which can disable the
- battery which keeps your info stored in your TNC's RAM. Once you remove
- the jumper, you wipe out all the info (parameters) stored in its RAM, and
- go back to AX.25 mode. From this point, you can perform normal AX.25
- communication again.
-
- Hope the above helps.
-
- 73,
- Scott
-
-
- --
- Scott Ehrlich, Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z wy1z@ka2jxi.ny [AX.25 Packet]
- E-mail addresses: wy1z@neu.edu [Internet], wy1z@wa1phy.ampr.org [TCP/IP Packet]
- Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
- Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
-
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-
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